Post by Chase on Apr 9, 2010 10:28:42 GMT -5
So, I didn't realize until I saw the next time what the ep's title was really about. I just figured it was a hyperbole-type thing on the fact that there was a huge mess to deal with in this town, but now I realize it's because it was the show's 99th episode! Very cool. A lot of shows work 100 into the title of their hundredth ep, and it was interesting to see them put it on 99 instead.
The ep itself was pretty depressing... in good ways, I mean. You tell someone it'll lead to salvation and they'll just do anything, won't they? Rob and Jane seemed particularly willing to go along with whatever the prophet girl said without question, and I would've said it was to the point of being slightly unbelievable, except that their son had just died, so they were slightly crazy anyway.
I'm gonna take a sec to note that Rob was played by Michael Shanks, of Stargate fame. Yes, I was a Stargate geek, once upon a time. It was cool to see him, and fun to watch him get slightly pummeled by both Jared and Jensen. But anyway, moving on.
Dean slipped further and further into his funk, and it's really frustrating to see him just not care. Last season Sam had some line about how Dean hadn't been Dean since he'd gotten back from hell, and I didn't really see it that much back then, but now it's becoming really clear that Dean isn't himself. I mean, yeah, there's an apocalypse. It sucks. God's not listening, which sucks worse. But these guys have spent their entire lives battling impossible odds, and now suddenly he's willing to just lie down and let the end come? Yeah, he's got a heavy destiny on his shoulders, but Sam's is just as bad - probably worse.
Since no one's been on the site lately I'll just make an effort to argue both sides of the problem myself: Well, it's probably worse for Dean than for Sam because Sam's saying no to Lucifer. He's saying no to the guy who wants to bring about hell on earth - everlasting darkness and torment. Whereas Dean's saying no to the guy who wants to bring people to paradise. That's a much more tempting offer. Sure, the angels are pricks, and not everyone's going to make it through the sparkly gates, but at least this way he's guaranteeing a good chunk of people paradise. Who's he to say no to that?
Well, good point, but like you said, the angels have been the enemy for a long time now. They don't seem to care about the well-being of humans, they just want to get themselves to paradise because they're grumpy and bored. How much can you trust them?
Well, more than you can trust Lucifer, and how else are they going to beat the Devil? It's not like they've been making all that much headway so far.
They took out two of the four Horsemen, I think that's some decent headway.
But that's still a far cry from stopping Lucifer. Who Dean has it on good authority that Sam will eventually say yes to, if they don't stop him first.
::Sigh:: Alright, so there are two legitimate sides to the "What should Dean do?" debate. I'm still ticked off by his running off and leaving Sam behind decision. Does he not realize that Sam's running off without Dean to do what he thought was best was what brought on the apocalypse in the first place? Learn from your mistakes, guys. Seriously.
And I can't miss talking about Castiel - this whole situation severely sucks for him. You can definitely see this Cas getting to the point he was at in "The End" pretty easily now. The idea that he wasn't a "true servant of heaven" was kind of strange, since it seems to me like all the other angels are the screw-ups and he's the only good one left, but maybe his getting drunk automatically wrote him off the list of candidates ("And Sam, of course, is an abomination" Good line.)
Anyway, I really enjoyed this episode. I hope Cas sobers up fast (and gets over whatever the sleeper did) so he can poof himself and Sam in to slap some sense into Dean. I'm half-expecting that Castiel won't get better fast enough, so Sam will drag him cross country in some random stolen car after Dean, end up with a flat while passing through Detroit, and Lucifer will end up coming after him with an offer while he's most desperate.
Next week's #100. Let's see what they've got for us.
The ep itself was pretty depressing... in good ways, I mean. You tell someone it'll lead to salvation and they'll just do anything, won't they? Rob and Jane seemed particularly willing to go along with whatever the prophet girl said without question, and I would've said it was to the point of being slightly unbelievable, except that their son had just died, so they were slightly crazy anyway.
I'm gonna take a sec to note that Rob was played by Michael Shanks, of Stargate fame. Yes, I was a Stargate geek, once upon a time. It was cool to see him, and fun to watch him get slightly pummeled by both Jared and Jensen. But anyway, moving on.
Dean slipped further and further into his funk, and it's really frustrating to see him just not care. Last season Sam had some line about how Dean hadn't been Dean since he'd gotten back from hell, and I didn't really see it that much back then, but now it's becoming really clear that Dean isn't himself. I mean, yeah, there's an apocalypse. It sucks. God's not listening, which sucks worse. But these guys have spent their entire lives battling impossible odds, and now suddenly he's willing to just lie down and let the end come? Yeah, he's got a heavy destiny on his shoulders, but Sam's is just as bad - probably worse.
Since no one's been on the site lately I'll just make an effort to argue both sides of the problem myself: Well, it's probably worse for Dean than for Sam because Sam's saying no to Lucifer. He's saying no to the guy who wants to bring about hell on earth - everlasting darkness and torment. Whereas Dean's saying no to the guy who wants to bring people to paradise. That's a much more tempting offer. Sure, the angels are pricks, and not everyone's going to make it through the sparkly gates, but at least this way he's guaranteeing a good chunk of people paradise. Who's he to say no to that?
Well, good point, but like you said, the angels have been the enemy for a long time now. They don't seem to care about the well-being of humans, they just want to get themselves to paradise because they're grumpy and bored. How much can you trust them?
Well, more than you can trust Lucifer, and how else are they going to beat the Devil? It's not like they've been making all that much headway so far.
They took out two of the four Horsemen, I think that's some decent headway.
But that's still a far cry from stopping Lucifer. Who Dean has it on good authority that Sam will eventually say yes to, if they don't stop him first.
::Sigh:: Alright, so there are two legitimate sides to the "What should Dean do?" debate. I'm still ticked off by his running off and leaving Sam behind decision. Does he not realize that Sam's running off without Dean to do what he thought was best was what brought on the apocalypse in the first place? Learn from your mistakes, guys. Seriously.
And I can't miss talking about Castiel - this whole situation severely sucks for him. You can definitely see this Cas getting to the point he was at in "The End" pretty easily now. The idea that he wasn't a "true servant of heaven" was kind of strange, since it seems to me like all the other angels are the screw-ups and he's the only good one left, but maybe his getting drunk automatically wrote him off the list of candidates ("And Sam, of course, is an abomination" Good line.)
Anyway, I really enjoyed this episode. I hope Cas sobers up fast (and gets over whatever the sleeper did) so he can poof himself and Sam in to slap some sense into Dean. I'm half-expecting that Castiel won't get better fast enough, so Sam will drag him cross country in some random stolen car after Dean, end up with a flat while passing through Detroit, and Lucifer will end up coming after him with an offer while he's most desperate.
Next week's #100. Let's see what they've got for us.